(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8] SZ[19]RU[Japanese]KM[-17.50]TM[300]OT[25/600 Canadian] PB[Nic]PW[Solaris]BR[6d]WR[7d]DT[2002-11-12]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]C[Nic [6d?\]: hehe, sa joace cu mesterul? Solaris [7d?\]: ok, hai noroc:) Nic [6d?\]: si tie ]RE[W+77.50] ;B[qd]BL[273.223]CR[qd] ;W[dp]WL[295.439]CR[dp] ;B[pq]BL[264.950]CR[pq] ;W[dd]WL[290.811]CR[dd] ;B[oc]BL[263.263]CR[oc] ;W[po]WL[287.878]CR[po] ;B[qm]BL[256.861]CR[qm] ;W[on]WL[279.129]CR[on] ;B[om]BL[252.360]CR[om] ;W[nm]WL[275.152]CR[nm] ;B[pm]BL[250.088]CR[pm] ;W[nl]WL[261.635]CR[nl] ;B[qo]BL[245.977]CR[qo] ;W[pp]WL[258.762]CR[pp] ;B[qp]BL[243.682]CR[qp] ;W[oq]WL[256.878]CR[oq] ;B[pr]BL[241.693]CR[pr] ;W[dj]WL[233.112]CR[dj] ;B[fc]BL[234.673]CR[fc] ;W[hc]WL[229.252]CR[hc] ;B[fe]BL[231.378]CR[fe] ;W[df]WL[226.342]CR[df] ;B[kc]BL[226.761]CR[kc] ;W[he]WL[216.794]CR[he] ;B[fg]BL[224.096]CR[fg] ;W[ec]WL[214.408]CR[ec] ;B[eb]BL[218.437]CR[eb] ;W[db]WL[200.500]CR[db] ;B[ed]BL[215.896]CR[ed] ;W[dc]WL[198.576]CR[dc] ;B[dh]BL[201.496]CR[dh] ;W[eh]WL[195.017]CR[eh] ;B[eg]BL[191.425]CR[eg] ;W[dg]WL[189.361]CR[dg] ;B[ei]BL[186.764]CR[ei] ;W[fh]WL[184.972]CR[fh] ;B[di]BL[170.431]CR[di] ;W[fi]WL[179.867]CR[fi] ;B[ej]BL[168.026]CR[ej] ;W[hg]WL[172.155]CR[hg] ;B[gh]BL[162.447]CR[gh] ;W[gi]WL[169.334]CR[gi] ;B[hi]BL[128.005]CR[hi] ;W[fk]WL[164.658]CR[fk] ;B[ek]BL[114.931]CR[ek] ;W[gk]WL[162.176]CR[gk] ;B[de]BL[99.390]CR[de] ;W[ce]WL[159.013]CR[ce]C[FunkSkunk [14k\]: lots of good high dan games today ] ;B[ee]BL[88.435]CR[ee] ;W[bg]WL[144.184]CR[bg]C[Billator [4d\]: this is a romanian tournament game ] ;B[hf]BL[70.382]CR[hf] ;W[if]WL[130.275]CR[if] ;B[gf]BL[63.502]CR[gf]C[FunkSkunk [14k\]: oh really? Billator [4d\]: very ] ;W[ig]WL[85.151]CR[ig] ;B[ie]BL[59.128]CR[ie]C[FunkSkunk [14k\]: neat ] ;W[je]WL[82.658]CR[je] ;B[id]BL[57.158]CR[id]C[AllyAxis [11k\]: did white get too aggressive ? ] ;W[hd]WL[80.585]CR[hd] ;B[ic]BL[47.789]CR[ic]C[FunkSkunk [14k\]: seems so, he has a few weak groups with connection probs Billator [4d\]: he should win with at least 18p ] ;W[hb]WL[48.357]CR[hb]C[minismurf [4d\]: catalin cup? ] ;B[gb]BL[42.522]CR[gb]C[Billator [4d\]: yep AllyAxis [11k\]: looks like he was trying to catch b group ] ;W[ea]WL[45.142]CR[ea] ;B[fb]BL[35.590]CR[fb]C[AllyAxis [11k\]: maybe he's short liberties now ? ] ;W[gg]WL[37.208]CR[gg]C[deft [5d\]: it's a difficult semeai ] ;B[ge]BL[26.971]CR[ge] ;W[ef]WL[33.217]CR[ef]C[FunkSkunk [14k\]: the h17 stones look afraid, not very secure deft [5d\]: B cannot connect ] ;B[ib]BL[11.814]CR[ib]C[deft [5d\]: it should be seki FunkSkunk [14k\]: oh wow! ] ;W[ha]WL[19.780]CR[ha]C[Billator [4d\]: e9 stones too :) ] ;B[ia]BL[1.814]CR[ia] ;W[cl]WL[7.980]CR[cl]C[FunkSkunk [14k\]: do you think that was whites plan, or he just got a bit of a break? FunkSkunk [14k\]: the seki i mean halciber [14k\]: a break FunkSkunk [14k\]: yes, i think so too :-) twoto2too [9k?\]: not a chance..solaris is gawd AllyAxis [11k\]: b is debating g16 ? minismurf [4d\]: there is no seki, white is dead there ] ;B[dm]BL[538.994]OB[24]CR[dm]C[minismurf [4d\]: just ko threats ] ;W[cm]WL[0.014]CR[cm] ;B[cn]BL[525.831]OB[23]CR[cn]C[deft [5d\]: yes, W is dead but B two stones are captured ] ;W[dn]WL[583.201]OW[25]CR[dn]C[AllyAxis [11k\]: thx ] ;B[dl]BL[514.566]OB[22]CR[dl] ;W[cj]WL[567.744]OW[24]CR[cj]C[Billator [4d\]: bad shape for bl :( AllyAxis [11k\]: b nice on right ] ;B[fm]BL[499.416]OB[21]CR[fm] ;W[en]WL[564.667]OW[23]CR[en] ;B[fl]BL[485.090]OB[20]CR[fl]C[AllyAxis [11k\]: b makes big moves now ? ] ;W[co]WL[560.021]OW[22]CR[co]C[Billator [4d\]: he start helping white to make teritory AllyAxis [11k\]: by being chased ? FunkSkunk [14k\]: even with that loss of stones, W looks good his O7 wall works well with his o9 group, and such ] ;B[ck]BL[460.502]OB[19]CR[ck] ;W[bk]WL[556.809]OW[21]CR[bk] ;B[hm]BL[443.237]OB[18]CR[hm] ;W[em]WL[553.047]OW[20]CR[em] ;B[el]BL[437.056]OB[17]CR[el] ;W[go]WL[544.615]OW[19]CR[go] ;B[hk]BL[427.388]OB[16]CR[hk] ;W[ff]WL[541.340]OW[18]CR[ff]C[deft [5d\]: ouch, B lost sente ] ;B[ga]BL[417.403]OB[15]CR[ga] ;W[hl]WL[534.564]OW[17]CR[hl]C[jemma [18k?\]: hi ] ;B[gn]BL[407.624]OB[14]CR[gn] ;W[ho]WL[521.817]OW[16]CR[ho]C[AllyAxis [11k\]: b again helping w shape ? twoto2too [9k?\]: live on the 5th line not so bad :P ] ;B[jm]BL[401.311]OB[13]CR[jm] ;W[il]WL[518.980]OW[15]CR[il] ;B[im]BL[395.135]OB[12]CR[im]C[AllyAxis [11k\]: w huge on bottom ] ;W[jo]WL[505.778]OW[14]CR[jo]C[AllyAxis [11k\]: b running for life ] ;B[bn]BL[389.866]OB[11]CR[bn] ;W[dk]WL[494.404]OW[13]CR[dk]C[planar [6k\]: b should have found a way to sacrifice that group twoto2too [9k?\]: he not gonna make it :P ] ;B[jl]BL[377.823]OB[10]CR[jl]C[FunkSkunk [14k\]: W wall makes a massive framework like whole side of the board ] ;W[ik]WL[484.629]OW[12]CR[ik] ;B[jk]BL[369.136]OB[9]CR[jk]C[steelhead [3k\]: yes.. w will let him get away..... AllyAxis [11k\]: w got the mojo working minismurf [4d\]: it was heavy, sacrificing it would likely have been too many points ] ;W[mi]WL[478.317]OW[11]CR[mi]C[steelhead [3k\]: and make big old cashola! twoto2too [9k?\]: game over ] ;B[ij]BL[360.804]OB[8]CR[ij]C[FunkSkunk [14k\]: yes, W has deifnatly got the mojo flowin ] ;W[gl]WL[474.696]OW[10]CR[gl] ;B[fn]BL[354.131]OB[7]CR[fn]C[FunkSkunk [14k\]: but W stilll invadeable Billator [4d\]: still not clear wehre will be bl's eyes ] ;W[fo]WL[471.481]OW[9]CR[fo]C[planar [6k\]: but running away is too many points anyway FunkSkunk [14k\]: yes ] ;B[kh]BL[311.251]OB[6]CR[kh] ;W[ki]WL[467.679]OW[8]CR[ki]C[FunkSkunk [14k\]: i wonder what W is thinking right now, yea? AllyAxis [11k\]: cornering b steelhead [3k\]: thinking, wish he would resign :-) AllyAxis [11k\]: tightening the noose planar [6k\]: how best to prevent an invasion in that open-skirted 5th line territory steelhead [3k\]: p2 simple... ] ;B[ko]BL[266.177]OB[5]CR[ko] ;W[kp]WL[462.805]OW[7]CR[kp] ;B[jn]BL[261.705]OB[4]CR[jn]C[planar [6k\]: blak is helping... ] ;W[lo]WL[455.493]OW[6]CR[lo]C[AllyAxis [11k\]: b just trying for eyes FunkSkunk [14k\]: yes, he is making the bottom strong twoto2too [9k?\]: black cn't live underneath that white...way too thick ] ;B[kn]BL[249.214]OB[3]CR[kn] ;W[io]WL[450.826]OW[5]CR[io] ;B[oi]BL[213.124]OB[2]CR[oi] ;W[ji]WL[446.189]OW[4]CR[ji] ;B[lq]BL[202.787]OB[1]CR[lq]C[minismurf [4d\]: black is asking for trouble here deft [5d\]: best B can do on the bottom is O2, but first he needs to live in the center... ] ;W[lp]WL[441.714]OW[3]CR[lp] ;B[mq]BL[600.000]OB[25]CR[mq]C[deft [5d\]: what is B doing?i ] ;W[kq]WL[435.496]OW[2]CR[kq]C[FunkSkunk [14k\]: i think we are going to see the board split into to big territories by the end of the game ] ;B[cq]BL[595.386]OB[24]CR[cq]C[SevenOf9 [8k\]: strange b strategy ] ;W[bo]WL[429.564]OW[1]CR[bo]C[deft [5d\]: if he thinks the center is dead, he might as well resign ] ;B[er]BL[592.459]OB[23]CR[er]C[AllyAxis [11k\]: I think b knows he's behind AllyAxis [11k\]: trying high risk moves FunkSkunk [14k\]: yea, he stopped tying to connect it ] ;W[fr]WL[600.000]OW[25]CR[fr] ;B[eq]BL[586.051]OB[22]CR[eq] ;W[dq]WL[591.830]OW[24]CR[dq] ;B[dr]BL[583.230]OB[21]CR[dr] ;W[bq]WL[589.689]OW[23]CR[bq] ;B[br]BL[578.459]OB[20]CR[br] ;W[cp]WL[587.276]OW[22]CR[cp]C[AllyAxis [11k\]: w giving him nothing ] ;B[eo]BL[567.254]OB[19]CR[eo] ;W[do]WL[582.937]OW[21]CR[do] ;B[cr]BL[550.862]OB[18]CR[cr] ;W[ep]WL[580.119]OW[20]CR[ep] ;B[fq]BL[547.058]OB[17]CR[fq] ;W[gr]WL[577.174]OW[19]CR[gr]C[steelhead [3k\]: major doomage. ] ;B[aq]BL[538.755]OB[16]CR[aq] ;W[bp]WL[575.305]OW[18]CR[bp]C[Zylek [6k?\]: can black really do this? steelhead [3k\]: no ] ;B[hq]BL[525.287]OB[15]CR[hq]C[FunkSkunk [14k\]: nope ] ;W[gq]WL[570.629]OW[17]CR[gq] ;B[fp]BL[523.018]OB[14]CR[fp] ;W[gp]WL[566.402]OW[16]CR[gp] ;B[ao]BL[519.356]OB[13]CR[ao] ;W[bm]WL[563.841]OW[15]CR[bm]C[FunkSkunk [14k\]: is b6 has more liberties then yea FunkSkunk [14k\]: but it doesnt Billator [4d\]: resign SevenOf9 [8k\]: finish Nic [6d?\]: ce pacat Solaris [7d?\]: de ce?:) Nic [6d?\]: ce dracu am jucat asa prost? minismurf [4d\]: these 6ds really aren't being nice in Catalin Cup... Billator [4d\]: :) Nic [6d?\]: de partida Solaris [7d?\]: nu's stiu:) Zylek [6k?\]: A2? AllyAxis [11k\]: when is next tournament game ? SevenOf9 [8k\]: could they understand K-pla ? ^^ minismurf [4d\]: Z, it is dead Solaris [7d?\]: te-ai grabit SevenOf9 [8k\]: this could be a klingon dialog Billator [4d\]: cupa catalin http://romaniango.org/cupa/tabel_1.html ] ;B[ar]BL[415.338]OB[12]CR[ar]C[Zylek [6k?\]: if balck A2, then B1 and A6 miai? ] ;W[es]WL[560.663]OW[14]CR[es] ;B[an]BL[413.068]OB[11]CR[an]C[FunkSkunk [14k\]: lol, klingons eh? Billator [4d\]: isn't klingon is ro ] ;W[or]WL[549.292]OW[13]CR[or] ;B[ap]BL[409.582]OB[10]CR[ap]C[AllyAxis [11k\]: Count Dracula ] ;W[eo]WL[547.078]OW[12]CR[eo]C[SevenOf9 [8k\]: cool bill, that was a joke of course steelhead [3k\]: haha...:-) ] ;B[bi]BL[406.189]OB[9]CR[bi] ;W[bj]WL[544.525]OW[11]CR[bj] ;B[nn]BL[392.008]OB[8]CR[nn] ;W[mn]WL[541.200]OW[10]CR[mn]C[Billator [4d\]: really? :) SevenOf9 [8k\]: :p ] ;B[no]BL[387.951]OB[7]CR[no]C[FunkSkunk [14k\]: i wish i could speak klingon ] ;W[np]WL[537.568]OW[9]CR[np] ;B[lj]BL[378.013]OB[6]CR[lj]C[FunkSkunk [14k\]: but still have a normal forhead though, that just isnt cool SevenOf9 [8k\]: deft is speaking klingon xor [3k\]: petaq ] ;W[li]WL[529.386]OW[8]CR[li]C[steelhead [3k\]: Nic is speaking kyu Nic [6d?\]: degeaba ma plang ca tot ma grabesc ] ;B[nk]BL[365.847]OB[5]CR[nk] ;W[mk]WL[524.183]OW[7]CR[mk] ;B[mj]BL[362.826]OB[4]CR[mj] ;W[nj]WL[522.034]OW[6]CR[nj]C[AllyAxis [11k\]: translate ? ] ;B[ok]BL[360.290]OB[3]CR[ok] ;W[ll]WL[519.836]OW[5]CR[ll]C[AllyAxis [11k\]: anyone ? minismurf [4d\]: what does # before the game name on the web-site mean? ] ;B[lk]BL[356.125]OB[2]CR[lk] ;W[ml]WL[517.534]OW[4]CR[ml] ;B[ni]BL[354.323]OB[1]CR[ni] ;W[kk]WL[514.288]OW[3]CR[kk] ;B[oj]BL[600.000]OB[25]CR[oj] ;W[kj]WL[511.516]OW[2]CR[kj]C[Billator [4d\]: jump in page I presume ] ;B[nj]BL[575.255]OB[24]CR[nj]C[Billator [4d\]: not played sorry ] ;W[ld]WL[502.994]OW[1]CR[ld]C[RoninRo [8k?\]: that game wasn`t played from diferent reasons Billator [4d\]: yep minismurf [4d\]: so, will it be played... or they are just never played? ] ;B[kd]BL[549.426]OB[23]CR[kd] ;W[le]WL[600.000]OW[25]CR[le]C[Billator [4d\]: never played RoninRo [8k?\]: never :0 ] ;B[ke]BL[542.524]OB[22]CR[ke]C[Billator [4d\]: they should play it in 4 days ] ;W[kf]WL[597.542]OW[24]CR[kf]C[RoninRo [8k?\]: no play, no points ] ;B[pn]BL[515.505]OB[21]CR[pn]C[Billator [4d\]: if they don't they(we) receive a rewarding 0 ] ;W[mo]WL[593.625]OW[23]CR[mo] ;B[oo]BL[513.068]OB[20]CR[oo] ;W[op]WL[591.402]OW[22]CR[op] ;B[on]BL[510.935]OB[19]CR[on] ;W[nr]WL[581.284]OW[21]CR[nr]C[deft [5d\]: nice shape ] ;B[mc]BL[484.819]OB[18]CR[mc] ;W[nd]WL[576.606]OW[20]CR[nd] ;B[md]BL[479.086]OB[17]CR[md] ;W[me]WL[573.082]OW[19]CR[me] ;B[ne]BL[476.793]OB[16]CR[ne] ;W[nf]WL[571.151]OW[18]CR[nf] ;B[oe]BL[474.916]OB[15]CR[oe] ;W[lc]WL[568.952]OW[17]CR[lc] ;B[of]BL[457.507]OB[14]CR[of] ;W[ng]WL[564.226]OW[16]CR[ng] ;B[og]BL[453.797]OB[13]CR[og] ;W[lb]WL[559.765]OW[15]CR[lb] ;B[mb]BL[449.371]OB[12]CR[mb] ;W[ma]WL[555.827]OW[14]CR[ma] ;B[na]BL[445.227]OB[11]CR[na]C[AllyAxis [11k\]: right side still invadabeable ? ] ;W[ps]WL[549.874]OW[13]CR[ps] ;B[qr]BL[432.885]OB[10]CR[qr] ;W[qs]WL[544.904]OW[12]CR[qs]C[SevenOf9 [8k\]: w O18 works ? ] ;B[rs]BL[395.099]OB[9]CR[rs]C[AllyAxis [11k\]: invadable ] ;W[os]WL[535.599]OW[11]CR[os] ;B[rr]BL[393.142]OB[8]CR[rr] ;W[la]WL[532.257]OW[10]CR[la] ;B[nb]BL[386.175]OB[7]CR[nb] ;W[ol]WL[526.556]OW[9]CR[ol] ;B[pl]BL[383.884]OB[6]CR[pl] ;W[nh]WL[522.876]OW[8]CR[nh]C[domi [1k?\]: Alli do you know that game where you put 2 B walls on the 10th line and W tries to live at the sans san ? AllyAxis [11k\]: no AllyAxis [11k\]: please tell me topolino [5k\]: that game has currently no answer i think... twoto2too [9k?\]: i played the otherone just yesterday..where the boarders are all black..and white tries to live at elast 1 group domi [1k?\]: not tell but show you if you want when this one will be finished AllyAxis [11k\]: sure domi [1k?\]: how must we do ? demo game ? AllyAxis [11k\]: je ne sais pas Nic [6d?\]: ma predau Solaris [7d?\]: asa pe finale?:) Nic [6d?\]: sunt vreo 60 de puncte pe tabla? Solaris [7d?\]: habar n-am Nic [6d?\]: cat ai numarat? Solaris [7d?\]: hai sa vedem, nu am numarat Solaris [7d?\]: . mai e o mutare:) Nic [6d?\]: pai ma fac de ras daca o termin Solaris [7d?\]: hahahaaa Nic [6d?\]: nici n-am observat Solaris [7d?\]: pai trebuia sa cedezi mai demult atunci:) ] ;B[oh]BL[154.564]OB[5]CR[oh]C[Solaris [7d?\]: pai e gata nu? Nic [6d?\]: ca mai era doar o mutare ] ;W[da]WL[506.455]OW[7]CR[da] ;B[gd]BL[152.089]OB[4]CR[gd] ;W[jd]WL[500.927]OW[6]CR[jd] ;B[jc]BL[149.410]OB[3]CR[jc] ;W[jf]WL[499.182]OW[5]CR[jf] ;B[kb]BL[146.227]OB[2]CR[kb] ;W[ka]WL[494.653]OW[4]CR[ka] ;B[gc]BL[141.691]OB[1]CR[gc] ;W[ja]WL[491.922]OW[3]CR[ja] ;B[lf]BL[600.000]OB[25]CR[lf] ;W[mf]WL[488.286]OW[2]CR[mf] ;B[lg]BL[595.664]OB[24]CR[lg] ;W[mh]WL[485.642]OW[1]CR[mh] ;B[kl]BL[590.259]OB[23]CR[kl]C[AllyAxis [11k\]: b still wants that big kill ] ;W[jh]WL[600.000]OW[25]CR[jh] ;B[kr]BL[580.072]OB[22]CR[kr] ;W[mp]WL[595.727]OW[24]CR[mp] ;B[jq]BL[572.777]OB[21]CR[jq] ;W[ir]WL[593.405]OW[23]CR[ir] ;B[jr]BL[568.579]OB[20]CR[jr] ;W[jp]WL[589.345]OW[22]CR[jp] ;B[]BL[568.579]OB[19] ;W[]WL[589.345]OW[21]TB[ha][oa][pa][qa][ra][sa][hb][ob][pb][qb][rb][sb][hc][nc][pc][qc][rc][sc][fd][hd][nd][od][pd][rd][sd][he][pe][qe][re][se][pf][qf][rf][sf][pg][qg][rg][sg][ph][qh][rh][sh][pi][qi][ri][si][pj][qj][rj][sj][pk][qk][rk][sk][ql][rl][sl][rm][sm][qn][rn][sn][ro][so][rp][sp][qq][rq][sq][sr][ss]TW[aa][ba][ca][ab][bb][cb][ac][bc][cc][ad][bd][cd][ae][be][af][bf][cf][lf][ag][cg][eg][fg][jg][kg][lg][mg][ah][bh][ch][dh][gh][hh][ih][kh][lh][ai][bi][ci][di][ei][hi][ii][aj][ej][fj][gj][hj][ij][jj][ak][ck][ek][hk][jk][al][bl][dl][el][fl][jl][kl][am][dm][fm][gm][hm][im][jm][km][lm][mm][an][bn][cn][fn][gn][hn][in][jn][kn][ln][ao][ko][ap][fp][hp][ip][aq][cq][eq][fq][hq][iq][jq][lq][mq][nq][ar][br][cr][dr][er][hr][jr][kr][lr][mr][as][bs][cs][ds][fs][gs][hs][is][js][ks][ls][ms][ns]C[Solaris [7d?\]: cam mare e drept Solaris [7d?\]: nu trebuia sa mori:) domi [1k?\]: ally I create the game in english room AllyAxis [11k\]: ok AllyAxis [11k\]: I'll join Nic [6d?\]: cand nu trebuia? Solaris [7d?\]: pai cind ai murit:) Solaris [7d?\]: trebuia sa faci ceva si sa scapi Nic [6d?\]: pai cand, la n11? Solaris [7d?\]: cu komiu , daca scapai, poa era strinsa Nic [6d?\]: sau mai devreme? Solaris [7d?\]: mai devreme Solaris [7d?\]: nu's cind exact Solaris [7d?\]: aaa Solaris [7d?\]: chiar la inceput ])